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Reader Request: Red State/Blue State Brain-only “Romance”?

Today, we’ve got a request from Noelle — a liberal who has set her sights on a hardcore conservative. And a somewhat confusing one. (Well…a MORE confusing one.) Let’s see if we can’t figure out what’s going on:

Dear Jeff,

I’m a Democrat, he’s an ultra-conservative Republican. I’ve been dubbed his “intellectual friend. ” We have long geeky, wonderful conversations about prime numbers and the FEC(Federal Election Commission) among others, which end with his sudden, often, urgent departure. I’ve told him I have feelings for him and I need my space if he doesn’t reciprocate those feelings. He says he understands, but crowds me with political email jokes, text messages, and phone calls. He never says anything specific about his feelings towards me and is extremely elusive about anything relating to his emotional life. My friends have started referring to his exasperating behavior as an ongoing “mind f**k.” Do these things actually exist? What should I do with my Ron Paul wannabe? I need a manslation, badly.

Gaga for a geek

Dear Noelle,

Well, this is a tough one. Let’s take a look at this one by the numbers.

  1. He calls you his “intellectual friend”: This means that your brain turns him on. Not a bad start.
  2. Long, deep talks…then quick exit: This says to me that he senses approaching sexual intimacy, but for some reason doesn’t want to go there. Not a great sign.
  3. You show him yours, but he won’t show you his (feelings): This means that his feelings likely don’t match what he thinks you’d want to hear.
  4. You tell him to stop if he’s not in for real, but he keeps on a comin’: This usually means that he doesn’t believe you. He wants things to stay as they are, and you say, “If it’s only like THIS, I don’t want it.” He’s hoping that you aren’t going to stick to your guns on that. He wants this to keep on keeping on, AS IS.

So, what in the hell is going on here? My guess?

THE AFFAIR OF THE MIND

For what it’s worth, if your friends mean “ongoing mindf$%k” in the sense that he’s toying with you in some way, I’m not getting that sense. If they mean that he’s having the equivalent of a steamy physical romance, but only from the neck up, well, they may have it.

This is a new one by me, but it seems like this guy is only interested in you for your mind. I know, I know. It doesn’t make any sense to me, either. (i.e. Why can’t he respect me for my VAGINA?) But the behavior tells the tale. And if your long talks were hot sex, it would be a very clear manslation: He wants to keep getting what he’s GETTING, and doesn’t want to move the situation forward into the land of further commitment/exclusivity.

I can’t say this for sure without more info, but his behavior also smacks of someone who wants to keep this situation a “secret.” Guys might behave this way when they are a.) cheating on someone or b.) for some reason, are afraid of what their idiot friends might say.

Is it possible that he doesn’t want to be with you because he wouldn’t want his neo-con pals to find out that he was in bed with the enemy? Is it possible that he HAS a girlfriend? I don’t know for sure, but it certainly seems like it could be one of these.

WHAT TO DO?

Unfortunately, I’d say that this is never going to change without a push from you. And right now it’s not clear that it’ll change even WITH a push. He clearly is drawn to you, but he’s been very resistant to moving the situation forward, even when you asked him to. So I’d say that the best you can hope for here is to find out, once and for all, what’s going on. And to do that, I’m afraid you’re going to have to really pin him down, along the lines of:

Listen, see. I want this to move forward, see. As in, romantically, you hear what I’m tellin’ ya. And if that ain’t gonna happen, SCRAM you hear me? And I need to know NOW. Ok, talk, you.

There’s no need to do it in the manner of an Edward G. Robinson style gangster from the 1920′s. That’s optional. But you’ve got to let him know that you REQUIRE an answer. And not the “right” answer, but the ACTUAL answer.

Now, I say that you’re not looking for the “right” answer because you’re going to scare the living crap out of him, likely. No man can answer the question, “So, where is this thing headed?” Like, ever. But we know we can’t just shrug, so we come up with something. Make sure that he understands, “Look, whatever is going on with you is ok by me — I’m not trying to talk you into something you don’t want. I just need you to know where I’M at, and I need to know where YOU’RE at.”

This is exactly the question he’s been avoiding, and so I’d say to beware if you ask it — if he gives you an honest answer, it’s likely NOT what you want to hear. (Why else would he be trying so hard to avoid answering it in the first place, without having to be asked?) But it sounds like you really need the honest answer, and he’s not going to volunteer it unless you really pin him down.

WARNING: The trouble with this type of thing is that, of course, his answer may not be what you want to hear, of course. He either has feelings for you or he doesn’t. Nothing either of you can do about that. The best you can do is find out what’s what.

Good luck, Noelle. I hope your Crossfire romance turns, you know, romantic. But at the very least, I hope you can get the answers you need. Thanks for writing!

What do you say, ladies? Anybody have a mind-only romance before? Ever turned up the heat from there?

Why not buy my BOOK? Huh?

Comments

Comment from Shelby
Time October 29, 2007 at 3:23 pm

It’s been my experience to realize there is a very strange breed of men out there. These particular men relish in the mental stimulation and “possiblity” of emotional and sexual tension and interest, although things never really come to fruition. Most of the time, these guys are already in relationships. My friend is in this exact situation. She has hours of stimulating conversation with a man over common interests. She has expressed interest of furthering the relationship but there’s no reciprocation on his part. He’s even told ME that he’s only interested in her MIND and not so much in her as a total package. But he loves playing with the idea of all that and thus, he’s hurting my friend whom I can’t seem to set straight about this jerk. Remember there are lots of guys like this out there and if it were me, I’d proceed with caution. These guys seem to go from one mind ++++ to another. Even when they’re in a relationship. So it might be safe to assume that you will one day be in a relationship with this guy while he’s mind++++ing another. Be careful and good luck!!

Comment from Jeff Mac
Time October 30, 2007 at 8:00 am

Shelby: Yeah, the infidelity thing definitely seems possible here. He does seem to be a man who is dancing very close to the edge of something sexual. Guys will often do that when it wouldn’t be ok if it were out in the open. As in, cheating. Totally possible.

Comment from Catherine
Time October 30, 2007 at 11:11 am

Maybe he is not good in bed, has no confidence in his sexual abilities, has sexual dyfunctions (premature ejaculation)

Comment from Jeff Mac
Time October 31, 2007 at 6:42 am

Catherine: Interesting thought. Very interesting. Yeah, what he’s doing DOES seem to smack of someone who is keeping SOMETHING secret. Interesting.

Comment from Weekly reader
Time November 4, 2007 at 10:42 pm

This is an interesting thread. Do you think he would be motivated if she just ignored him completely for a while? or that he would continue his “poke to provoke technique”? Just a question…

Comment from Jeff Mac
Time November 5, 2007 at 9:06 am

Weekly Reader: Well, the only time that usually works on a guy is if he’s set up a situation where SHE’s the one contacting HIM all the time. And even then, it’s tough.

I mean, it couldn’t hurt — it would certainly let her know where he’s at. But I doubt it would change his mind.

Thanks for reading! Weekly!

Comment from Noelle
Time December 13, 2007 at 12:54 am

Hi Jeff! I just wanted to update you on this situation. We’ve stopped talking, but I recently learned that in addition to being worried what his idiot friends might say, he was indeed dating someone else at the same time–and keeping that a secret as well. Moving on…and away from intellectual neo-cons!

Comment from Jeff Mac
Time December 13, 2007 at 7:39 am

Hey Noelle! Well, I’m sorry it didn’t work out. But at least I was right, and isn’t that consolation enough? (And move back over to the Left, woman! Come back from the dark side!)

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