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    When is a Booty Call NOT a Booty Call?

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    Commenter and one-time, much-typing requester, Bloomsbury Bell, is back with another question. This time, it falls under the category of EXCEPTIONS. As in, if a dude calls in the very mid of night on Saturday, does it have to be a booty call? (The answer might surprise you. Unless you skipped ahead, in which case it’s going to be pretty much exactly what you think.)

    O Wise One,

    To make up for having nearly broken your internet connection with my last question, I’ll keep this short.

    Is there any way to interpret a midnight Saturday phone call, from a guy I’ve gone out with “as friends” three or four times, that is flattering? Or is such a call always a booty call? (Or is it OK to be flattered by a booty call?)

    In this case, the phone call:
    a.) came after a brief
    conversation on Friday about possibly getting together over the weekend
    b.) felt flirty and a little seductive, but I would have trouble pinpointing any specific words that made it so
    c.) again contained mention of possibly getting together the next day. (He mentioned; I made my interest clear without sounding like my life was hanging in the balance, ’cause you told me to be more clear but I still don’t want to sound desperate.)
    d.) was not followed up by any actual contact on Sunday. A little low-key but non-sexy flirt on Monday.
    I don’t think the hour of the call is exactly rude, since we had both mentioned having insomnia/being online all night, for the last several weeks. Most guys, I would never speak to again if they called me that late, and on a “date night”, but this happens to be the same guy I wrote about last time, who seemed really interested but hesitant. Hours at a time alone together or apart from the crowd together, two long walks, etc. After months with no progress I moved on but he’s recently resurfaced, about a year after our first meeting.

    Dear Bloomsbury Belle,

    You know what? Call me crazy (Why, Mac, you’re CRAZY!) but I’m not getting a booty call vibe here. Number one, there was no booty. None requested, none received. I mean, unless I’m missing something, there was no actual attempt at getting busy, right?

    Here are the elements of a booty call, just to review. (Everyone, kindly picture me in a labcoat with a laser pointer, directing your attention to the slide on the screen. Dew eet!)

    ELEMENTS OF A BOOTY CALL

    • Last Minute In Person Plans - As in, “Hey, what are you doing, like, now?
    • Potentially Sexual Location - “Wanna come over?” or “Can I come over?
    • Usually Semi-Out of the Blue - “Yeah, I’ve been crazy busy for the past couple weeks. Anyway, how ARE you?

    This one fails on all three of those. There were no plans made or attempted. And it wasn’t totally out of the blue, either. You had been talking about getting together just a day before.

    BUT AT MIDNIGHT??

    The hour of the call doesn’t really relate to whether or not it’s a booty call. I’m sure there are industrious fellows out there making booty calls at 10am. Probably dudes into the Seven Habits of Highly Successful Womanizers. They have a mission statement and everything, I’m sure of it. Not me — too lazy. But I’m sure they’re out there.

    The point is, a booty call can happen anytime. But regardless of the fact that he gave you a little jingle at the very witching booty hour, this call still didn’t really fit the description.

    VERDICT: FISHING EXPEDITION

    Man, is this guy cagey! And a little socially…confused. (Thus the calling at midnight on what you called “date night”. Or as we call it at our place, “watching television in our underpants night.”) I don’t know what this guy’s issue is with directness, but it seems like he’s got one. A big one. I mean, give me a break, dude. You call our pal BB in the middle of the night, you flirt, and then you slip back into the darkness? What IS that?

    Seems to me that he’s stuck in the “Is she interested” mode. He keeps trying to see if you’re interested, but never to the point that he actually makes a move. Not necessarily a MAJOR warning sign, but certainly a point of concern.

    PS: IS IT OK TO BE FLATTERED BY A BOOTY CALL?

    If this actually HAD been one, you want to know if it’s ok to feel flattered? Well, if I were a woman, knowing what I know, I’d likely NOT feel very flattered by a booty call in one sense: A guy does NOT call a woman he likes out of the blue to have sex in the middle of the night (or whenever) and then fade away. That situation is basically him looking for someone to help him masturbate. Which, if that sounds positive to you, go for it. (Maybe you’re just a naturally helpful person.)

    Good luck, BB. I think this guy is having serious trouble putting it into gear. At this stage, I’m not sure he’s going to or not. But it was definitely not exactly a booty call, or there’d have been, you know, booty.

    You getting a vibe, ladies? What’s this guy after? Booty? Doubloons? Pieces of eight?

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    Comments

    Comment from Selena
    Time June 25, 2008 at 7:03 am

    Doesn’t sound like a booty call to me either. Sounds like an insomniac seeking out another insomniac to chat. Saturday night isn’t necessarily “date night” to everyone, so I wouldn’t put alot of emphasis on that. Hey, if you were actually on a date you wouldn’t have been home to answer the phone right?

    He sounds interested but SLOW. I think if you actually want to date him, you are going to have to be proactive about inviting him to do things with you.

    Comment from AnneZ
    Time June 25, 2008 at 9:48 am

    Fishing expedition, exactly right. Sounds to me like he needs her to close the deal.

    As in, “As a matter of fact, I am free tomorrow between x hour and D hour (approximately 3 hours later). I think it would fun to get together. I would love it. Let’s do it.”

    Notice all the clear instructions and unmistakeable stroking in above sample. Not there by accident.

    This situation would drive me nuts. I would close the deal. If he wiggles away, be gone, Slippery Sir, cease thy endless window shopping. Next time he called I would laugh it off. Not rudely, but gently. I would tell him he’s not serious and I know it and, ah, well, life. Yanno?

    But since neither one of them has forced the issue yet, she still has the possiblity that something wonderful could happen. Me? I’d force the issue. Invite him to something and see what happnes. Let’s see what color the stripes are on this zebra for once and for all.

    Comment from mmagnolia
    Time June 25, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    Yes, Dears, Yes! A “Closer” is needed, stage Right-There. ‘ That Mr. Zebra [Thx, Ms. AZ!] could use assist of palBB as Ms. Giraffe. Why-OH-Why, did She not reach out 2Him b4 his Saturday call! Sometimes, Jane jumps b4 Tarzan, you know?
    Ms. BB’s interest seems to be of a non-”booty” call; maybe even an achy ‘true love’ call! Timely news on brainworkings, covering personal and non-personal stuff; ‘Neuroscience’ is confirming some biblical stuff! about biochemicals re-the notion that ‘perfect love casts out fear’.
    Bottomline, Ms. BB: At It, Girl & Take a Chance on Love. Could be a 2fer; Hearts you save could be yours & his!

    Comment from mmagnolia
    Time June 25, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Oops & Yipes! Forgot 2suggest that Dear PalBB make sure [by ASKING!] that Her ‘He’ is unattached. She’s on his fringe; only He knows! Worse case: Give Him your wettest raincheck!

    Comment from Barbara Doduk
    Time June 25, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    Is it at all possible that he was indeed doing a booty call but was testing it out to see if the offer of booty would fly and when it seemed unlikely, bailed by making “plans” for Sunday. Which of course he had no intent on, and which he avoided.

    My senses tell me, this “friendly” guy wants to be a sex friend. Last time around the friendship never got to the sex part, and now he’s sniffing you out again to see if you are perhaps more willing to let him in on the sex part this time.

    After all you said you were up late and alone and you flirted with him. A late night lonely flirtatious woman - to a man - might mean he might get non-committal sex… no? In a man’s mind anyway that could be his thought process. That’s what my senses are telling me.

    Comment from mar
    Time June 25, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    Hi all

    I don’t know what to say: I’d need to know more about their history!

    I think in principle it doesn’t look a lot like a booty call, but I think Barbara Doduk has a point there. Maybe he intended that but then felt it would be rejected?

    I think AnneZ is quite right that “closing the deal” is required. Somehow.

    I’d say there is some interest, but I don’t know how much (or for what).

    Best

    Mar

    Comment from Bloomsbury Bell
    Time June 26, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    Thanks, all. As AnneZ put it, “Be Gone, Slippery Sir” turned out to be the way to go on this. I “forced the issue” and he immediately went into hiding for a few weeks, from which he eventually emerged with a lot of indirect, third-person stuff. As best I can figure, he can’t quite decide whether he is in a relationship, or at least whether it is or is not exclusive, from one day to the next. (There is this woman on another continent . . . not so convenient when you want dabloons.) I’m a bit disappointed, cause I quite liked the guy, but it’s all a little too hypothetical.

    Comment from Jeff Mac
    Time June 27, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    BB: Ha — “can’t decide” whether he’s in a relationship. That reminds me of an old Mitch Hedberg joke:

    “I don’t have a girlfriend, I just know this girl who’d get really mad if she heard me say that.”

    Sorry it didn’t work out…but then again, given who you’re dealing with…maybe I shouldn’t be, you know?

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