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Thoughts on Whether to Phone a Jellyfish

Let’s start off the week with a good, old fashioned moment of, “So…wait…who’s with WHO again?” Actually, I’m gonna sum up because the beginning of this one is a little too soap opera for my male mind to follow. (Hint to Jessica: Had one of the people in paragraph 2 been holding a lightsaber, I might have been able to stay with you a little better.)

The points of interest are these:

  • Jessica (our hero) likes Jack (boy o’ dreams), and doesn’t want to leave for her new job w/o telling him.
  • Jack is with…I don’t know…Girl X (eville, with horns and fangs with venom.)
  • Jessica thinks that Jack and Girl X are wrong for each other, and tells Jack (always a great plan)
  • Jack says she ain’t the first to tell him that. They shag.
  • Afterwards, the following:He said that he wanted to be with me but didn’t think he “had the balls to do it.” (meaning break up with his girlfriend).
  • Ye Olde Crux: We continued talking until this past weekend when he said he’d talked to some people about this and they said he wasn’t happy as well but that he wasn’t going to be happy with anyone until he was happy with himself. He then said he couldn’t see me anymore and that he really wanted to be with me but was trying to do the right thing. He said that him and the girlfriend probably wouldn’t work out cuz she knew we had been hanging out. He said that later that night he was going to tell her everything going through his head and if she wants to stay with him while he figures things out then he can but if she leaves, she leaves. (However, she’s got no backbone and won’t stand up for herself so she’s going to stay)
  • And the big finish:I know that I’m a bad friend to this girl and that Jack and I should not be in this situation. However, we’re here and now and I need help. I really like him and think we could be something great. Should I talk to him or wait for him to talk to me? He asked if he got everything sorted out and was single could he call me and I said yes. I just miss him a lot and don’t know what to do.

Dear Jessica,

Ok, here’s what I’m seeing here. Someone, and I’m not saying who but it rhymes with “Jack” needs to grow hisself what we manslators like to call a “backbone.” And then his backbone needs to grow a set of balls. I’m not saying that it’s easy to dump someone, of course it isn’t. But this guy seems to be talking to everybody he knows about how he’s wrong for this girl, but doing nothing about it.

Wait, no. Scratch that. What he seems to be doing is listening to everyone else about how they think he’s wrong for this girl. He seems to be just agreeing with whomever he’s in the room with at the time.

Jessica: She’s totally wrong for you. You’re not happy.

Jack: I know, you’re so right.

Friend Q: You should break up with her.

Jack: I should I really should.

Girl X: You are absolutely my boyfriend.

Jack: Yep, yep, I’m with ya.

Jeff Mac: You are, let’s say a rooster.

Jack: Er…cockadoodledoo?

Aaaaaand…scene.

Thank you for joining us at Manslationspiece Theatre.

(Everyone takes a bow.)

WHAT SHOULD YOU DO?

Look, I’m not saying he doesn’t like you. But whichever of his friends said the old chestnut about, “can’t be happy with anyone until he’s happy with himself”? That’s what’s going on here. That very chestnut. Actually, I’d put it another way, but it amounts to exactly the same thing:

He can’t be with who he wants until he admits that HE wants it.

Seems obvious, right? But he’s not doing it. I hate to say it like this, but I’d hold off on calling him. I’d let him get his feces together on this one before getting anywhere near him. The reason is, this issue with him is going NOWHERE until he fixes it. You can’t do it. Obviously all of his other friends can’t do it. Girl X clearly can’t do it. Only he can do it. And the only way he is GOING to do it is if he knows that HE has to do it.

I know it’s driving you nuts not to call him, but I’ll tell you this — if you call before he’s ready, it will be worse than if you had just never bothered. You’re going to THINK it’s better because you get to talk to him. But he’s got the opposite of the jedi mind trick going for him. He’s got Jedi Mind Susceptibility. If you call, he’ll be instantly (and temporarily) pulled in your direction. No good for this guy, and no good for you. Don’t get your hopes up by brain-warping him into telling you what you want to hear.

VERDICT: WAIT AND SEE

Hey, I know you’re going to ignore that advice. Hell, I’m sure that I would. But I would be wrong. Why? Because until he has the balls to get his life in order and call you, he is NOT the person you want to be talking on the phone with. If you call him, he’ll be this same not-sure-what-he-wants guy he was when last you spoke.

Good luck, Jessica. If you love something wishy-washy, set it free. If it calls, awesome. If it doesn’t call, also awesome. If you chase it down, crazytime.

What do you think about Jack, ladies? Any reason for Jessica to keep prodding?

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well… my manslation is actually one that I shouldn’t even be asking for. I should never be in the situation that I’m in but I am and need some advice.

First off, let’s go to the previous boyfriend only to relate him to the current boy, Jack . You see, the previous boyfriend and the current boy are best friends. The Ex and I dated for a few years and then about a year and a half ago he ended things and now dates my ex-best friend. Anyway, so Jack and I have been friends through out me dating his best friend and even after the break up.

Jack and I have always had a special connection and amazing chemistry but he’s always had a girlfriend (actually the same girlfriend for now 3 years and she’s a friend of mine. I use that term loosely when referring to her though we don’t really hang out and never talk unless we’re with our mutual friends and Jack). I bet you’re starting to see the picture. We never hung out, just the 2 of us, and we never really talked. I recently was informed that I was getting transferred to another city with my job. That being said, I wanted to make sure I had no regrets and that he knew how I felt about him. I told him we needed to talk and he said he could come to my apartment.

When he got there, we just talked. I’ve been wanting for sometime to tell him that I don’t think he’s happy with his current girlfriend (and I don’t think she’s happy either) and that I think they’re still together because they’re comfortable. He said I wasn’t the first person to tell him that and that he’s not happy but he doesn’t know if it’s her or not. I then told him that I’ve liked him for a really long time and that I knew with me moving this would be the only chance I’d have to tell him. He responded positively and said that he really liked me too.

For the next 2 weeks, we hung out almost daily. Nothing happened with his girlfriend because he said he was still trying to figure everything out. A week ago, things became physical and we began to seriously start talking about “us.” We talked about how I was going to be leaving and him breaking up with his girl friend might yield him single and not with me because of distance. He said that he wanted to be with me but didn’t think he “had the balls to do it.” (meaning break up with his girlfriend).

We continued talking until this past weekend when he said he’d talked to some people about this and they said he wasn’t happy as well but that he wasn’t going to be happy with anyone until he was happy with himself. He then said he couldn’t see me anymore and that he really wanted to be with me but was trying to do the right thing. He said that him and the girlfriend probably wouldn’t work out cuz she knew we had been hanging out. He said that later that night he was going to tell her everything going through his head and if she wants to stay with him while he figures things out then he can but if she leaves, she leaves. (However, she’s got no backbone and won’t stand up for herself so she’s going to stay)

He’s still with the girlfriend and I haven’t talked to him. I know it’s only been like 2 days but it’s killing me to not talk to him. I know that I’m a bad friend to this girl and that Jack and I should not be in this situation. However, we’re here and now and I need help. I really like him and think we could be something great. Should I talk to him or wait for him to talk to me? He asked if he got everything sorted out and was single could he call me and I said yes. I just miss him a lot and don’t know what to do.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
Jessica

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Comments

Comment from Tasha
Time July 28, 2008 at 8:39 am

Hi,

Jeff, could it just be that this guy, right now gets the “best of all worlds” (a term coined by a very bright linguist friend). To me it eeringly sounds like
a) he is comfy with his girlfriend and is not willing to let go (maybe Jessica should look at all the benefits he gets from being with her, social, physical etc)

b) the whole “my friends keep telling me I should dump her but poor me I cant” sounds like an excuse. I mean do we actually know that his friends actually tell him to dump her? And even if they do he puts his comfort first and foremost and is willing to stay with somebody he doesnt actually fancy just so that he will have his needs met

c) if Jessica wasnt moving to another city would he dump the girlfriend? I dont know but it seems that this is an excuse to let Jessica down “politely”

d) Jessica would you really want to date a guy who cheated on his girlfriend with her friend??
(or aquaintance or whatever still you two knew each other and it makes it worse)

So, I would think that he is definitely not ready for any sort of commitment and it would be very upsetting for you to put in energy into trying to make him leave this other girl. At the end of the day he knows you and should know how wonderful you are. He was willing to get physical with you and still hasnt sorted himself out and in the process tags both you and the other girl along. I would not call him. Let him sort himself out and this way whatever happens its not going to be a case of “she made me” scenario.

All the best

Comment from mmagnolia
Time July 28, 2008 at 4:38 pm

Dear Jessica, I second JM/Ms. Tasha’s commotions because Your being JackGuy’s *leftover* EVEN by default must be unbecoming and unworthy to having Him in your heart!

Just say: NO! Be kind 2self by remembering that you had “backbone” to bear & bare your heart. How in anyone’s Creation could anyone have Love & Peace with Someone whose bones are missing-in-action.

Your thinking that *It* would be “something great” is a sure thing, for the GreatBeyond–where we all will be “SG”. In Your here and now, follow the advice YOU probably would give a friend. Besides all that: You’re moving, so presume no problem exists when Jack is absent. Also, understand that His absence is His choice; Peace 2Him. Cheers & Joys 2U!

Comment from Heather
Time July 31, 2008 at 12:13 am

He didn’t seem to have any trouble letting Jessica go. When a man is with a woman he can’t stand, it’s rarely true that he can’t stand her. He probably just likes the drama and the sympathy it gets him. A man will be where he really wants to be, not where he says he wants to be.

Move on. This screams of heartache. And one other thing, if he comes back, make sure things have changed and he’s ready for what you want. Like lobster, they will resurface before they are fully cooked.

Comment from Dr. Jenn
Time October 22, 2008 at 2:05 am

Should she keep prodding?? no, No, and NO!

Wishy-washy is too wussy for real love.

End of story.

Keep YOUR backbone and step away from the phone. Unless you want to dial up heartbreak!

Jeff’s right on this one. As always! :)

Comment from Ronnie Ann Ryan
Time November 14, 2008 at 8:48 am

I’m with Doc Jenn – don’t touch that phone! Jack is all talk and no action, and this situation is nonsense. Jessica – wake up and smell the coffee – he’s not wishy washy, he’s full of it. Run now before your run screaming and look for a man who knows who he is and what he wants – YOU! Don’t try to pry a man out of his so called misery because you will be the next part of that drama and his unhappiness.

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