What if He’s Being a Little TOO Honest
Interesting and seemingly not-so-common question from Stacy. She said she wanted honesty, and boy did she get some. He’s now been honest with her about things that…well, might there be such a thing as too much information? Oh yes, there might. I’ve received far too much in MY life, after all.
The question seems to be…why is he telling her all these details?! Let’s read her request, and find out just which species of bean he’s spilling. (I know it seems dirty when I write it like that, but keep it in your pants, people.)
Hey Jeff, I recently found your site and love it! Here goes….
I met a guy in the bar who lives in a different state and of course he tried to play me into bed by telling me how connected he felt to me and blah blah blah….I told him if he meant what he was saying then the sex could wait. I gave him my number and he called. We had several phone conversations over the course of a couple of weeks. He asked me what I wanted out of a relationship and I said honesty, trust, and my space. Four months later and several hot nights together he has told me every detail. How many women he has slept with and how he could possibly slip and have a meaningless one night stand. Grant it I did ask for honesty but my God! I’ve never had a man be so honest (and I do appreciate it very much) but what the heck is going on here? He has stated that he needs to settle down and stop playing around ( we are in our middle 40′s) and how much he cares about me. I’ve learned so much about him that I do not know if I could ever move our relationship pass what we have now which is great sex and of course the most honest communication I have ever experienced.
Dear Stacy,
Ok, there are a couple of points of interest in your letter. Not necessarily red flags, per se. But I definitely wouldn’t go waving them in front of any bulls of questionable temperament until you get some more info. (Truth be told, I personally wouldn’t wave anything in front of a bull. I think it’s rude. But that’s just how I was raised. i.e. Weirdly.)
FLAGS AS YET TO BE DETERMINED TO BE “RED”…LET’S CALL IT A PRE-MAUVE
- He told you how he “could possibly slip and have a meaningless one night stand.” Yikes.
- He told you that the needs to “settle down and stop playing around.” As opposed to…
The first one tells me that he is either worried he might do that based on his past life experience, or that he’s actually planning on doing it, at least in some small part of his brain. Hard to tell which, but I’m getting a bit of the former off of him. He used to be a player, and he’s confessing to you the kind of thing he knows he’s capable of.
This CAN be a bad sign depending on the guy. Some dudes will tell you the awful things they “might” do one day so that you’ll go, “No, no, I trust you.” And then when in a bizarre, who-could-a-thunk-it sort of way, he actually DOES the thing, he can just say, “Hey, I told you that’s what I was like! Attsa matta for you, hah?” (That last part is only if you’re dating a licensed organ grinder, complete with dancing monkey.)
The second flag could go either way. He says that he needs to stop playing around. Well, obviously, duh, that means that he has BEEN playing around. Otherwise, er, why stop doing something you’ve never done. (Eat that, Jean Paul Sartre!) This also lends a little credence to my earlier theory. He’s a reformed or reforming player.
VERDICT: PROCEED WITH CAUTION, TRUST BUT VERIFY
Look, Stacy. If he really wanted to actively screw you over, he likely would have kept those things to himself for the most part. However, he is communicating to you where he has been, what he’s used to, and what he once used to do.
You are not going to “help” his conversion from a player to a regular human. That’s his business. So don’t try. Don’t threaten him, don’t tell him, “You better not screw me over!” or whatever. Not because it’s not true, but it’s beside the point. Either he is that guy or he’s not that guy. What you want to do is to verify which guy he is, ok?
So I’d suggest something like, “Listen, some of the stuff you’ve told me concerns me. I appreciate that you are being honest with me, and I have to be honest with you. When you said X and Y, it made me feel weird. I understand that you said you could ‘slip’ and have a meaningless one night stand. I’m just telling you that for me there IS no meaningless one night stand. That would not be ok with me, ever, ok? Now, if you can’t handle that, well, we can part company. I’m not trying to change you into something you’re not. I just want you to know what would and wouldn’t work for me…” Etcetera.
The point is, you’re not going to convince him to stay faithful or not. That’s not in your power. At all. Even a little. That’s all him. What you can do is to let him know what your needs are, and where the boundaries are. If he can’t hear that, well, you guys aren’t the right fit.
Good luck, Stacy!
What’s your take on all this honesty, ladies? Make you nervous?
Posted: July 29th, 2008 under Reader Requests.
Comments
Comment from Sassy
Time July 29, 2008 at 1:24 pm
I think it depends on what you want out of this relationship. You’ve got honesty by the buckets, but sounds like this is a long distance relationship and that he may not be taking it all that seriously.
I’d step back, listen and watch to what he does and then take it from there. Plus, I’d evaluate what I would want.
Good luck!
Comment from tasha
Time July 29, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Hi Stacey,
I would as well proceed with caution. I’m not saying that this guy is no good but at the end of the day he seems to have a lot of experience with women and still told you that he could “slip”. Now if this came from a guy who had just started dating, would be a totally different story. But from a man in his 40s who is looking to “settle down” he was either thinking out loud, testing the waters (and see your reaction) or trying to prepare you for something as Jeff said.
I think I would talk to him at some stage and try to find out exactly what he meant by that “slip”, Because if he gives you an elaborate explanation about how men just do those stuff and it doesnt mean anything blah blah (if he actually defends this position with ease and conviction) then you have your answer. Just listen carefully and you will get your answer.
Comment from Mimi
Time July 29, 2008 at 9:02 pm
I don’t trust it. He is telling you in not so many words that he is who he is. He is being honest with you and THAT is exactly how he is getting around it. My ex Mr. Crazy actually admitted to doing just that…it was his “way around it.” This one sounds very clever. Be careful. I would not trust him.
Comment from mmagnolia
Time July 29, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Dear Stacey et al: Wow & Wonderful that *He* stepped up! A Woman asked; A Man answered. We should all have seconds of that! Sure: His motives may contradict Hers, but Honesty couldn’t be counterproductive if BOTH He & She wanted it to.
Oops & Pardon, DearJM, but where’s the wolf-of-too-much-info under Moons of Romance? *Nakedness* is a byproduct and the simplest process is ripping off garb in the form of accoutrements and closets! Gosh….sorta-kinda-naked may equal ‘romancing’, but NOT ‘partnering’.
Am wondering also, Ms. Stacey, if Your squeamish is due to not wanting to spread Your own slice o’Life on His table? Tell Him whatever fantasy/slipup may throb within Your bosom. BTW&Golly: IF ULike Him truly, multiply Sweetness4Both!
Comment from Sassy
Time July 30, 2008 at 8:29 am
Just another quick thought: People tell you who they are. You just have to listen.
Comment from TJo
Time July 29, 2008 at 11:34 am
Make me nervous? Hell ya! But if you really care for him, proceed with caution. Remain the confident person you are but let him know that under no circumstances will any straying be tolerated and he will immediately be kicked to the curb without a look back. It’s “one & done” you get one chance pal, screw it up & your done. Good Luck!