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    Can She Teach An Old Dog New Tricks?

    So, if a guy’s 47 and has never had a serious relationship with a woman…should you be his first try? That’s what Sabina’s wondering. She’s dating a great guy, but she’s wondering if his lack of experience will just make it impossible. Let’s find out, shall we? Hey! I said, “shall we?” That’s better…

    What a great site, Jeff, thank you!

    You’re welcome! (Always a wise way to begin a request. Butter the manslator up, gain favor, I get it. Smart move, Sabina.)

    So I ran into an old friend over 3 months ago, and we’ve been dating ever since. We both kinda feel real connected all the way around. He is 47 and because of serious health issues (ending in open heart surgery 7 years ago) he says he never really committed to anyone in his life, in fact has never even lived with a woman. He did date a woman for 6 years a while back but they apparently argued too much. He is sincere, not a womanizer, and now wants a peaceful relationship, a companion to love, and he considers me his soul mate, and has even been telling me that he loves and adores me, and that he can see us spending our lives together.  I love and adore this man as well, and so far, we’ve been seeing each other almost every day, he likes to do things with me, cuddle with me, he has bought me jewlery and flowers, and he is generally very attentive and sweet.

    Well, my gosh, this all just sounds too perfect. What’s that I see? Ah. A second paragraph. Batten down the hatches everyone. And no, I don’t care if you don’t have hatches. You just hush up and batten something down, pronto.

    My conflict is that I read that men who have never been married at this age and never lived with anyone won’t change and that any attempt for a successful relationship will fail. This idea is in the back of my mind often. I keep thinking that this relationship will fail because he has no experience sharing a life with someone. We’ve been together only 3 months so it is difficult to tell if he would ever be able to live with me, or marry me. For me, it would be important to find a committed lasting relationship at some point in my life, and he knows that, and says he can see that happening with us, but he can’t make any promises. Aren’t my chances slim of that really happening?  Also, it appears that I have a greater sexual appetite than he does. Is that because he is 47 and things slow down at that age? Any advice?

    Dear Sabina,

    You’ve got a couple of questions here, so let’s go through ‘em. Bim bam boom. That’s the sound I make when I go through things. Such as questions.

    TOO OLD TO ROCK ‘N ROLL?

    Well, if your question is “Are there men who, having had no prior long-long term relationships, would NOT be datable at 47?” the answer would I’m sure be a resounding YES. Just listen to all that resounding we’ve got going there.

    If your question is, “Are ALL men that way?” I’d have to say no. I mean, look at it the other way. There are plenty of men who have had PLENTY of serious relationships that you wouldn’t even want near your lawn, let alone your vajayjay.

    SLIM TO NONE, AND SLIM LEFT TOWN?

    You wonder if your chances aren’t just too slim? Honestly, Sabina, all of our chances are pretty slim. One in a million, I’d say. Maybe a million-five, depending upon the square footage. No wait, that’s apartments.

    What I’m saying is, don’t date this guy’s “dating resume.” He’s treating you how you want to be treated right now. The worst that can happen is what? That you have a great time for a short time, and then later it turns out he wasn’t ready?

    I’m being a little glib (which, let’s face it, is an improvement for me, to only be a “little” glib) but seriously, there IS no love without taking a ridiculously impossible chance with the deck stacked just wildly against you. No way around that one, Sabina. Is it a red flag that he never found anyone at all for 47 years? Well, it’s certainly a point of interest. But I’m sure there are plenty of dudes out there who are far worse, whose history looks far better on paper.

    YOU ARE GENEROUS AND HAPPY…IN THE BED

    Sorry. For a second there I forgot I wasn’t a fortune cookie. I usually remember that.

    I can’t really answer your sex drive question from a medical perspective. I have no formal medical training. Or informal medical training. I barely have formal clothing. I once wore a tie, and there was a doctor nearby. So, let me just say that I have no idea about anything medical.

    Though I’m no doctor, I do watch House M.D. religiously (i.e. on Sunday Mornings, dressed up, drinking sacramental wine.) I seem to remember something on there about blood pressure meds causing a depressed libido.

    Have I mentioned that I am not a doctor and can not speak intelligently about medical matters?

    The point is, I just don’t know.My advice on this would be to tread lightly. Male potency is most definitely a touchy issue for lots of dudes, and if he senses that you’re in some way annoyed with him, or judgmental of his lack of interest, well, it ain’t going to help.

    Maybe the next time there’s a Viagra commercial on TV, ask him if he’s ever tried it. Like, along the lines of, “Oh my gosh, I wonder what that’s LIKE?” You know, not along the lines of, “Uh, ever thought about getting a little help in the sack, pally?” It’s just to get the conversation going, see where it leads. The point is, to (gently) open the door on this topic.

    Good luck Sabina! I wish I could tell you that he wasn’t too old to start…or that he was. But I’m sorry, it’s a case-by-case sort of thing. Which is GOOD news.

    What do you see here, ladies? Is this guy too long in the tooth to start? And how to address the sex drive issue?

    Why not buy my BOOK? Huh?

    Comments

    Comment from Selena
    Time September 5, 2008 at 10:04 am

    It’s not as if he has no r’ship experience, you wrote he was involved with someone for 6 yrs. And I wouldn’t rule him out given that you have been enjoying the last 3 mos. It could be a matter of having taken him 47 yrs. to find YOU. I don’t think you need to rush living together, or marriage–why don’t you just take the next 3 mos. and see how it goes?

    As far as the libido issue, I like Jeff’s idea of commenting (lightly) on the viagra commercial and possibly (hopefully) opening a dialog from there. If you get closer to each other, this seems like an area you can work on as long as he’s motivated.

    And there is a positive to becoming involved with someone less experienced…they often have far less baggage from previous relationships that ends up affecting yours.

    Comment from Liz C
    Time September 5, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    Sabina, I’m in a situation similar to yours, except my guy was married for 6 years, but no other serious LTRs. And he’s over 50.

    We’re going on 18 mos together now and will probably eventually tie the knot. It’s not always issue-free, but the issues aren’t all his — hell, I was married for over 25 yrs and I have plenty of issues of my own to work thru.

    I think you’ve got a great chance here! Just take it slow and keep an open mind. I’m so lucky to have found my guy (also an old friend, from over 20 yrs ago) and wouldn’t trade him for the world.

    And ED drugs are a nice enhancement for those of us over a certain age.
    :)

    Comment from mmagnolia
    Time September 6, 2008 at 1:11 am

    Dear Sabina:
    Deelighted 2Second JM/Selena; “my gosh”–perfect & Hey, Ma, “less baggage”!

    Ignore that tawdry tune about *never married/never cohabitated*; melody depends on Which Guy as it would on Which Gal. Better to practice a 3-step of Will+Way equals Goal!

    Make efforts toward gentle de-cloistering of Your PalPerfect! Use that SoulMateness stuff to turn any age difference into a Treat! BTW: “47″ isn’t ancientville, not even near the ‘hood’.

    Re-the LushStuff, seek out TV/Web reruns of ‘Talk Sex w/Sue’, who gives straight, soft, knowledgeable, hilarious answers. BTW2: She’s possibly twice Both your ages! Also….there’s a bookPair ['She Comes First' & 'He Comes Next', by Ian Kerner] 2stoke, read ‘em 2gether!

    IF U want what U say U want, that IT could succeed there & now. Mr. PalPf seems to want the same. Soooo, Serenade & enFlower HIM!
    Enjoy making Good, Grand!

    Comment from mmagnolia
    Time September 6, 2008 at 1:43 am

    Postscript, SabrinaDear…
    JMDear’s “viagra” suggestion was !eureka, but check internet for natural, non-lethal fruits. Can’t err being gently cautious, exactly! as wanting 4Self.
    SweetCheers!

    Comment from Shelby
    Time September 6, 2008 at 2:08 am

    My forensic psychiatrist friend once said that if he/she hasn’t been married/in a lengthy serious relationship or have had a child by the age of 30, there is something fundamentally wrong with them. But! That there is always the exception to the rule. Case in point, my aforemention friend. He’s simply careful and picky. He knows what he wants. If “all the checkmarks are in the right place,” then why not give it a go? Opinions are worth only what you pay for them…but mine is this: If things seem wonderful, wait it out. I would. For the right guy. Of course be careful of yourself, but if you’re genuinely happy, stay with what works and give it a go. best of luck!!

    Comment from hunter
    Time September 6, 2008 at 2:23 am

    Man has had heart surgery, I don’t think he can go on Viagra…….or can he?……

    Comment from Christina
    Time September 6, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Sabrina,
    He sounds great. There are myriad reasons why someone wouldn’t be in a relationship for a long periods of time–possibly many good reasons among them. Our society tends to pathologize singlehood (reference Shelby’s comment above, “My forensic psychiatrist friend once said that if he/she hasn’t been married/in a lengthy serious relationship or have had a child by the age of 30, there is something fundamentally wrong with them”) for a lot of reasons, most of which are bunk.

    In fact, your man may simply be unusually independent and self-sufficient, or he may be astute enough to sense early when people are not right for him, respectful enough to terminate an relationship before wasting his partner’s time, and/or responsible and confident enough to not jump into a relationship just to lengthen his dating resume. For more on the perspective of single-not-pathological, you might want to check out Bella DePaulo’s Living Single blog at http://blogs.psychologytoday.com/blog/living-single or Lisa’s and my blog at http://onely.org.
    Good luck! CC

    Comment from mmagnolia
    Time September 8, 2008 at 1:02 am

    All*Dears!
    Whoa….Please hold those pens!
    Any “fundamentally wrong” scenario is within notion that general statements apply to particular folks. [HunterDear, UR QuiteRight; viagra is not Agoodie.]

    Even hereabouts, a professorBud observed longago that if one doesn’t bleed by age 17, one never grows up; he was wrong2, then and now!

    Here’s a sweet wish: Dry those hankies, IF on behalf of us *Geezettes* who enjoy “fundamentally” wonderful lives which, absolutely, can be enhanced by soulmates; but…

    For sure! a fundamentally *right* issue of Life is to love and be loved, thereby helping self and another to become better selves! Let’s applaud the picking of whatever Petunia, at one’s leisure and at one’s will! Besides all that–some flowerbeds have ‘issues’, anyway.

    Cheers2 Our Gardening & Betterment!

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