When There is No Sex AFTER The Baby Comes
I’ve been told that this is a biggie. The kid comes, everybody gets exhausted, and the sex goes out the window. (I wouldn’t say that this is the reason that Liz and I have decided not to have kids, but it’s sure not a selling point on changing our minds either.)
But seriously, folks. Elise has talked about it with her man, and nothing seems to change. Does this mean the death of sexytime? Let’s get some more details before we schedule an autopsy room, shall we?
Dear Jeff,
I met my husband 3 years ago, we hit it off real well, started dating, we moved in together, got married and I got pregnant. Here’s the catch, up until this point everything was going fine, we were going out every night, we had an awesome sex life, I hit 5 mos pregnant and he slowly shut me off of sex until he said it weirded him out too much to be with me sexually.
I’ve been told that this can be a weird moment for plenty of men. And by that, I mean that I’ve seen the movie “Knocked Up.” There’s something going on there that they don’t fully understand, they don’t know if they’re hurting you or the baby, and they just can’t let themselves get into it.
It was around this point that we stopped going out and he stopped drinking, a year later he still is the same way. Unfortunately, he doesn’t seem to want me anymore, or, at least like he used to. He says he does, he says he’s stressed now with money, (I’m a SAHM and we’re down to one income) he says that he’s just too plain tired now some nights. He says he loves me, says he still finds me very attractive, ..I just dont get it, I’ve lost all my pregnancy weight and go to the gym while he’s at work…we text each other through the day, he calls me, our relationship seems great, we just barely have a sex life now,..and I’m really starting to resent it. I talk to him about it and tell him how I’m feeling he tells me his reasons (as I’ve said above) and then adds, well, I don’t know what to tell you. Does this mean I’m going to be in a marriage with barely any sex life?? Help !!
Thanks
Sincerely
Elise
Dear Elise,
Ok, here’s what I see. It seems like what you’re saying is that you had great sex, then there was a period of time when sex was sort of “forbidden” and finally there’s been enough time between then and now that the two of you just don’t know how to find your way back. So, let’s see if we can’t figure out where he’s at, and see if you can’t find your way over there.
WHY MIGHT A MAN SHUT DOWN THE SEX DRIVE?
Here’s the thing. I don’t have kids, but I HAVE been in a relationship that was pretty damn sexless after a point. In my experience with this, in an intimate relationship, when intimacy goes, sex goes. When I’m talking about the intimacy going, I’m talking about:
- Unresolved issues
- Secrets
- Major busyness
- Distance
- Too long since the last time
- Neglect, emotionally or otherwise
Basically, anything that does what I call “closing the airlocks.” Anything that might tend to keep the two of you in separate bubbles — both of your emotional lives sealed off from one another.
WHAT’S INTIMACY GOT TO DO WITH SEX? THIS IS A GUY WE’RE TALKING ABOUT!
Yes, I know that you’ve heard that guys can have sex when there’s no intimacy at all. Well, not with the person with whom there’s SUPPOSED to be intimacy. In my personal experience, when I’m in a situation that demands intimacy where there’s something that I’m not sure about, it’s easier to avoid the sex, lest she see my not-sure-ness.
It doesn’t have to be something deep and dark. It could just be the stress of feeling like I’M over HERE dealing with all of THIS, and SHE’s over THERE dealing with all of THAT stuff and…oh crap, I don’t have the energy to deal with crossing that distance right now.
Keeping yourself separate like that takes energy. Being close gives it. But when you’ve been holding yourself separate, you forget that. And you sometimes feel that being close is going to take EVEN MORE than you’re already expending now, and eh what’s the point?
The trouble is, it’s a vicious cycle. Self perpetuating, and it doesn’t get any better.
HOW TO GET BACK TO SEXYTOWN
Here are a few things to keep in mind as you attempt to see where you’re at together:
- NO NAGGING: Not that you don’t have a legitimate grievance, but the point here is to defuse his resistance. Making him feel like you’re standing there with your arms crossed, tapping your toe, saying, “Hurry the eff UP, I’m waiiiiiiting!!!” won’t help. I mean, it certainly isn’t much of a turn-on, right? What will help is…
- BE ON THE SAME SIDE: You’ve got to find a way that the two of you are on the same side of this issue. You’ve got to find SOME ground that both of you can stand on in agreement. At the very, very least, both of you want a happy, fulfilling life for each other, as free of stress or unnecessary tension as possible, yes? Well, start there. Or wherever. What you don’t want is to get stuck any deeper on your OWN sides, wondering why the other one isn’t coming to your side. Be on the SAME side.
- WANT WHAT YOU WANT: Sometimes in these situations, you can find yourself starting to wonder, “Am I just being unreasonable here?” You’re not. What you want is sexual satisfaction. There is nothing wrong with that. Let him know that you want what you want, and don’t apologize for that.
- BE WILLING TO HEAR HIS SIDE: Don’t just go in assuming that you know what his reasons are, or that he’s wrong by default. For whatever reason, he thinks this situation is the best choice. Find out why. Let him know, in no uncertain terms, “I don’t just want you to tell me what i want to hear. I really want to know — what do you want here? We’re together and I love you — and that means we’ve got to do our best to see that everybody gets what they need.“
And lastly…
PREPARE FOR SOME INITIAL TURBULENCE…
People seal off the airlocks for some reason. Maybe even a small one. But it’s real. And we keep them sealed because, well, opening that airlock door causes that really loud WHOOSH noise, and if you’re watching the right movies sometimes an alien comes flying out of it. It’s not always comfy right off the bat, is what I’m saying. But I’ll tell you this — if you don’t open those doors? It’s never gonna get any comfier.
Good luck, Elise. This isn’t an easy one. It requires you both to agree to face something initially uncomfortable. But if there’s a way back, it’s definitely through.
Where my moms at? Any hints for our pal, Elise on how to keep the lovin’ alive?
Posted: October 29th, 2008 under Reader Requests.
Comments
Comment from Amy
Time October 29, 2008 at 9:29 am
Can I share a couple of life lessons earned the hard way? I was in your shoes once. We were happy with each other, mutual respect, love, all that good stuff. But with a 2-yr-old and a newborn, sex was off the table. There just wasn’t TIME – we had two kids to take care of, careers, a house, pets, bills to pay, families that expected portions of our time, cornhole with the neighbors – everybody got a piece of us but US. By the time bedtime rolled around, the only thing that sounded appealing waw sleep. There’s always time later to get the sexyback, right?
Then he died. One day he went to work and he never came back. And there was no time to work things through, to find each other again – it was just me, two babies and a big empty bed. I’ve spent a lot of time trying to learn lessons in the two-plus years he’s been gone, and one of the biggies is this: the marriage comes before the kids, almost every time. It sounds counter-productive, but a healthy marriage fosters healthy kids, and and a healthy marriage includes adult time and a good sex life.
Help him readjust his priorities a bit. Get some time alone – leave the baby with the grandparents for a weekend, get out the lingerie, start up with the dirty texts. Kids will take a hunk out of your marriage, but they don’t have to kill it if you don’t let them.
Sorry to sound like such a downer, but you can bet that if I am ever lucky enough to meet another man like my late husband, he will benefit from my regrets.
Comment from betsy
Time October 29, 2008 at 12:19 pm
What a great question – really, I think there need to be more posts on this very thing – the kids aren’t the problem, I mean, certainly they can compound the problem, but this kind of thing comes up in relationships that are sans kids too.
Jeff’s responses about intimacy were great – and interesting to know that men, who can separate intimacy from sex so well, can’t necessarily do it with the person they are intimate with. I feel the same way about sex – I’m pretty good at separating it from intimacy…unless I’m in love with the person, and then all rational separating ability goes to hell.
Anyway – one option might be to take sex off the table – for now anyway and have your husband satisfy you in other, sexual, ways that don’t actually involve sex. We do, at least, owe our partners attention to their needs – and your husband should be willing to provide for yours in a reasonable way. This way, you can get some action while taking the pressure off of him…and who knows maybe it will put him in the mood – and if not , well, you guys are still intimate, you’re still getting your needs taken care of and he’s not feeling the presssure of being asked for sex. Doesn’t mean that can go on forever – but in the short term it might be a nice middle ground that allows you both to relax enough to start a different level of conversation – or maybe just enough to get over the hump (no pun intended! or maybe…) and go back to your old sexy ways.
Comment from SZ-Q
Time October 30, 2008 at 9:25 am
Wow.. I’m dealing with a very similar issue – fantastic guy – sweet/caring/attentive/wonderful/no sex. However, in this case, the sex has been put “on hold” due to an injury (unrelated to that part of his region) that has not yet healed. So far, I’ve been able to deal with it. So my questions would be the following:
a) If you’re with someone, and you’re not married, but hoping to eventually be married, you stick with someone through good times & bad – right? (everything was amazing before the injury)
b) When a period of time has passed without doing the wild thing (4 months out of a 7 month relationship) and the guy is able to get around, but obviously in pain… is it still okay to broach the subject asking for things outside of sex? (foreplay etc)?
c) Why has the intimacy stopped too? Forget just sex… everything’s missing…kissing, holding hands, etc etc
d) How does one know if the partner hasn’t lost interest vs. physically not being able to “do the deed?”
Help jeff!
Thanks!
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Comment from Kristen
Time October 29, 2008 at 8:07 am
If possible, get a baby sitter (a close relative you trust)who can take the little one over night . Plan a night alone with your husband doing something you both enjoy. Let your husband know a few days in advance so he keeps that night free, however do not open the door for excuses as to why you cant do it. On your date keep it light , have a few drinks…have fun..dont talk about the kids, or bills. Just chill with your husband. NO PRESSURE. If it feels right at the end of the night to get it on..then pounce lol…I think the biggest thing is finding that friendship you had with him before the sometimes harsh realities of life.