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    Do Men Want YOU to Fix Things Too?

    When a young lady named herself “One Helpless Girlfriend” you know that either she’s at the end of her rope, or she had really sadistic parents. Her question: do guys — the compulsive FIXERS — want you to fix THEM when they’re venting? The answer will almost definitely surprise you, because it’s probably “no.”

    Of course, I just ruined the surprise. But in my defense, well, I’m not very patient.

    On to the question and the full(er) answer.

    I have heard relationship advice that men want to fix things and this makes it difficult for them to understand when we women just want to vent to them and are not looking for solutions.

    What a coincidence. I have given such advice! Based upon very, very extensive and brutal trial and error on my part, I might add.

    So what does it mean when men vent to women? Are they looking for us to offer solutions or do they just want a sounding board. Lately my boyfriend has been telling me about problems at his work, which I love because, to me, this is sharing. But I wonder what he wants from me. When he  tells me about an unrealistic boss does he want me to offer advice on how to deal with this crazy guy or does he just want me to say “that sounds frustrating,” give him a hug and pour him a beer? Can I propose something he won’t really do just to make him feel better, like, “somebody really needs to punch that guy?” Sometimes it seems like he wants advice, but I don’t have any for him because the work situations are complicated. What do I do in these situations so that he will keep telling me about what goes on at work?

    sign me,

    One Helpless Girlfriend

    Dear OHG (yeah, you know ME),

    This is such a great question, and I’m so glad you asked. And I think I’ve got the answer. Ready? Does a guy — the guy who always wants to fix YOUR problems while you’re venting — want you to fix HIS when HE is venting?

    ANSWER: NO

    I know, weird, right? It really would seem that if a guy thinks your venting is for solving, that he’d want that when he did it. But I don’t think so.

    Truth is, nobody likes that. When somebody is, in fact, venting…well, they’re expressing. Sharing, as you said. And just like when it’s YOU doing the sharing, what does the sharer really want? To know that what you just shared really landed. That you heard him, understood him, and are on his team.

    BUT IT REALLY FEELS LIKE HE WANTS ADVICE!

    Yeah, well, welcome to our world. That’s exactly why this is an issue for us. When you’re venting and venting, it really REALLY feels like you want help with it. I even know — KNOW FOR A FACT — that venting doesn’t require a solution, but I swear, I still have to do the equivalent of stapling my mouth shut, and hanging out a sign that says, “WOW, THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT REALLY SUCKS.

    So what should you do?

    DO WHAT YOU WISH HE’D DO

    Catch yourself right in the act. Stop yourself before even trying to give advice. Mentally remind yourself of just how little is required of you here. (Which, by the way, is exactly why I have a hard time. Listening is so friggin’ easy, it feels like it’s slacking off.) Stick to your guns. I’m listening, I’m with you, it sounds like you feel XYZ right now. Be a good reflection. Show him that you really, really see/hear/feel him. That’s what he’s after.

    And honestly, if he’s coming to you for advice, he’ll ask for it.

    What’s your experience, ladies? What to do when he’s venting?

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    Comments

    Comment from AnneZ
    Time May 20, 2009 at 9:25 am

    What to do when he’s venting? Reassure him that you’re on his team. “You DID work hard on that, baby, no one could have done better.” Etc.

    The only other thing I would add since she’s specifically worried about him continuing to vent with her is to toss him the dog biscuits as well: “I love it when you share with me–I like to picture your work day.” Maybe choose that exact moment to pour him the beer. If he’s expressing frustrations, well, he’s frustrated. You get a perfect opportunity to tell him he’s a success at least at one thing–sharing with you.

    You said the work situation is complex and you don’t really feel qualified to give advice. Couldn’t hurt to say so! “Baby, this is really tough stuff! I don’t know how you do it! I know you’ll figure it out and I can’t wait to see how you do because I know I’m gonna learn something.” Gives him points in the all important Bad Assery Dept as well as expresses your true state of mind.

    (Thanks to Jeff for exposing the previously unknown but apparently critical Bad Assery Dept.!)

    Comment from Jen
    Time May 20, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    One thing that’s I think is helpful for couples (or people in general, like friends. :P ) is to start off a discussion/talk by telling the other person what it is you want/need from them. For instance, if it’s to vent, you could say: hey, I just wanted to vent and have you hear me out. If it’s for problem-solving, it could go: hey, I have a problem I’d like your input on. this way, you both start off on the same page and the other person knows what’s expected of them.

    Then the other person should show that they heard by reflecting the emotion that the other person is expressing (e.g. Sounds like you’re frustrated because this, this this happened) if it’s a sharing thoughts/feelings conversation. Nodding your head (while good because it’s a good nonverbal) isn’t the same as verbally expressing that you get the other person’s perspective–that you get what they’re experiencing and going through. I think that could be helpful for getting people on the same page.

    Comment from T
    Time May 21, 2009 at 10:15 am

    Thanks Jeff. Now I’m singing, “I’m down with OPP”….

    Great advice. I never thought of this before. And hey! Now we know one way that men and women are alike.

    Celebrate good times, come on!!

    Comment from Fran
    Time September 24, 2009 at 10:05 am

    It could be that sometimes he wants advice and sometimes he won’t. It doesn’t hurt to ask.

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